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    Now, for a quick explanation on the winning prob of those two decks, it's basically based on the low time cost needed to build one.

    If you didn't find out yet, SED curves for cards follow a simple set of rules:
    SED gain per level for Moe cards decreases as you approach top level.
    SED gain per level for Babe cards remains relatively the same for every level (it might fluctuate, raise or drop a bit)
    SED gain per level for Sexy cards increases as you approach top level.

    What this translates to is that Moe cards can reach 60% of their top SED around Lvl40, while Sexy cards don't reach that amount before Lvl80, and Babe cards achieve that around Lvl60. Of course, almost all Sexy cards have at least 10% more top SED than any Moe of the same rarity.

    Crossing that with the fact that matchup bonus means a card of any attribute can defeat a card of the weaker attribute being just one third as powerful, this means that:
    Matching SR vs SR, a Lvl20 SR Moe will most probably win against a Lvl100 SR Sexy. Similarly, a Lvl45 SR Sexy will always defeat a Lvl100 SR Babe; and a Lvl30 SR Babe will always defeat a Lvl100 SR Moe.
    Even more! Matching your R vs an SR, you only need a Lvl40 R Moe to defeat any Lvl100 SR Sexy. Once again, values for Sexy and Babe are higher (around Lvl70 and Lvl50, respectively).

    What this means is that players that aren't in the top percentile, or don't want to throw too much (or any) money into the game, can easily make a colliseum-winning deck just by rasing 5 R Moes to Lvl40~50, and/or a couple SR Moes to Lvl20~30; and then targetting Sexy predominant decks. That's actually buildable in a few weeks (It took me about two weeks to top level 2 SR cards, just from daily rewards, gacha/chances, and other miscelaneous rewards...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotono View Post
    Thanks, updated it to reflect that.

    I'm probably not the best one to be writing these considering I can't even read it without google backing me up.
    No problem. My ability with the JP language is not that far from yours. I just have enough experience to keep my trusty EN-JP dictionary at hand, and then double-check anything that seems too spotty from the google translation and try to fix it.
    I could do a full translation, but it would take too much time and effort, so that first Google pass through the text saves a lot of worktime

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    I'll add here what I posted near the end of the thread for Event 1, regarding the Colliseum:

    Currently best cards are:

    • Super Rare
      • Event-Only:
        • Chikusa Uno (12,700)
        • Miyu Kisaki (11,830)
      • F2P:
        • Hiyori Katagiri (11,000)
    • Rare
      • F2P:
        • Marie Mochizuki (7,270)
        • Airu Shirayuki (7,080)
        • Noriko Takase (6,410)
    • Normal
      • F2P:
        • Riza Shimozono (2,860)
        • Ouka Komai (2,700)
        • Shuri Kanno (2,370)


    The values posted in the wiki state the matchup bonus is 3x...
    That actually means a lvl maxed card can easily defeat any matchup lvl maxed card one rarity tier up, and any lvl maxed normal can defeat any matchup lvl50~60 SR card.

    That's a huge advantage given to matchups.

    Currently, minimum requirements for having any chance are:

    • Against all Super Rare deck
      • Lvl100:
        • 3,944: No N card. Any midleveled R. Any lowleveled SR card
        • 3,667: No N card. Any midleveled R or SR card
        • 4,234: No N card. Any midleveled R or SR card
      • Lvl75:
        • 2,958: No N card. Any midleveled R or SR card
        • 2,750: Lvl90 Riza Shimozono. Any midleveled R or SR card
        • 3,175: No N card. Any midleveled R or SR card
      • Lvl50:
        • 1,972: Any high leveled N card. Any midleveled R card. Any low leveled SR card
        • 1,834: Any high leveled N card. Any midleveled R card. Any low leveled SR card
        • 2,117: Any high leveled N card. Any midleveled R card. Any low leveled SR card
    • Against all Rare deck
      • Any N matchup card will work for evenly matched lvls.
      • Any R/SR matchup card will work, regardless of lvl.
    • Against all Normal deck
      • Any matchup card will work, regardless of lvl.


    My SED tables are quite full of holes, so I can't calculate exact thresholds for R mid+ levels, or most SRs.



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    OK, from the people that played the JP card, HELP works the following way:


    Every time you attack another player, a random PeroFriend is selected, and their center card given to you as a Helper Card.
    The first of your cards that is knocked out gets replaced by the Helper Card (same for your opponent).

    An interesting tip somebody gave is that you can cancel an attack (The process is something like Enter List of Opponent -> Choose Oponent -> Start Battle) and reselect the opponent to get assigned a new helper card, until they're both useful to you.

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    Here players can check girl power of all girls in English version at level 100.

    List of Super Rare Cards - PeroPero Seduction Wikia

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    So much great info. Thanks for all the hard work Kotono. ♥
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    Ugh, an RPS style of PvP?...I may be somewhat obsessed with trying to get every card there is in the game but I don't do RPS style anything...I don't even...just...yeah...

    Not that it has any particular bearing on the ability to understand, but in your "Win Reward and Criteria" section, "Total Hypnotic Force of Opponent" probably means "Opponent SED". Can't provide much of a basis for it but if you remember that magic circle-like thing that pops up from time to time in the game when you do stuff like level up cards, use wild cards, or when the game loads, it's a triangular magic circle where the points are labeled "Seduction Skill" and the connecting circular bars read "Peropero Saimin", Saimin meaning hypnosis.

    Just something to consider.
    Last edited by ChibiKika; 07-15-2015 at 12:55 AM.

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    Yes, hypnotic force is referring to SED. I usually change it when I see it, but that is how it comes out when google is translating the wiki page for me.

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    Hey, at least the translator somewhat gets it right. In the aigis wiki it translates attack range as cum degree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenhou View Post
    Hey, at least the translator somewhat gets it right. In the aigis wiki it translates attack range as cum degree
    ROFL xDDDD

    I'm gonna say something totally random and unverified, a 100% random guess, so take it just like that:
    The first time I noticed the difference of terms between the JP and EN PPS version, I thought about a possible reason for that (besides a likely translation mistake). Somehow made sense to me that, since Nutaku needs to censor/modify stuff to keep the support they receive from western banks and networks, then probably they modified the term on purpose.
    I mean, think about it. If the protag gets to have sex with the girls he meets after hypnotizing them, then well.. ..that sounds a little like forcing them (to avoid the use of a more specific word).
    Instead, if you say that the protag gets to have sex with those girls after seducing them, it sounds quite better and softer.
    So if Nutaku was asked about PPS, they could explain it in a more western-friendly way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotono View Post
    Yes, hypnotic force is referring to SED. I usually change it when I see it, but that is how it comes out when google is translating the wiki page for me.
    The term in JP is literally Saimin Power, which translates to Hypnotic Power. We're the ones using a different term (Seduction Power)
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    Hmm think you got the weak vs strong. Pretty sure Sexy is strong against Babe, Moe is strong against Sexy, and Babe is strong against Moe. At least for when I researched this game prior to it coming out. In fact it was a JP player that told me this fact.... Did they change it for our version or something?

    *goes back to event description*

    Yep.... You have it wrong in the guide.

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