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To make compaire easyer I show what I expext player would get on avaridge if they spend 200 stamina. Sample size are much bigger ofcause.

10 spins at GHQ cost 200 stamina and gives:
3.8 triple Chance
1.8 triple Exp
1.3 triple Pero
2.8 triple Gift
0.3 non-triple
Total 2.8*N-Wild, 1306 Pero, 171 exp and 3.8 per 200 stamina.
(based on 130 spins)

20 spins at BONUS STAGE also cost 200 stamina and gives:
1.2 triple Chance
1 triple Exp
1 triple Pero
1 triple Gift
Total 1*N-Wild, 1160 Pero, 210 exp and 1 girls per 200 stamina.
(bassed on 80 spins)

40 Spins at 5-3 cost 200 stamina
4.3 triple Chance
3.6 triple Exp
2.2 triple Pero
4.2 triple Gift
Total 4.2*N-Wild, 1483 Pero, 210 exp and 4.3 girls per 200 stamina.
(based on 500+ spins)

200 Spins at 1-3 cost 200 stamina
20 triple Chance
20 triple Exp
10 triple Pero
20 triple Gift
Total 20*N-Wild, 1450 Pero, 210 exp and 20 girls per 200 stamina.
Only 1 quest at one time
(based on 1000+ spins)

100 Spins at 1-9 cost 200 stamina
10 triple Chance
10 triple Exp
5 triple Pero
10 triple Gift
Total 10*N-Wild, 1450 Pero, 210 exp and 10 girls per 200 stamina.
Only 1 quest at one time
(based on 500+ spins)


GHQ is better than bonus stage on all but exp - but exp dont matter much. For most quests GHQ is best too.
So I would pick GHQ and not Bonus stage.
GHQ is not as good as Area 5-3 (where spins cost 5 stamina) .
GHQ seem better than all the areas after 5-3 imo, but I need more testing.
All my N-girls are maxed so I get like 2500 pero from GHQ and just 1500 pero from bonus stage per 200 stamina. Big difference imo.

Problem with GHQ is that we dont have acces 24/7 to it.

Outside area with spin cost 1 or 2 and area 5-3 the GHQ are my facorits. 5-3 has 5 in spin cost and it is first area that allow 2 missions at same time.

In all honesty, that small of a sample size is nowhere near enough to properly show everything. However, it does demonstrate what i meant with there being no failure chance on the GHQ meaning you always get some kind of reward. Since BA is so incredibly random, it is a safer bet to go with GHQ.

There's one problem with the numbers given here:
I have recieved non-triple-spins in GHQ, and quite a lot of them. That means they're not triple-spin-guaranteed (Either that, or I managed to hit a bug).

Also, the last 800sta I spent today in BA has netted me:

• All three chance missions (18 chance times)
• Pero and Exp one-star missions (3 triple-spins each)
• Around 10 to 15 triple-spins that didn't count to current missions (Pero and Exp)

That's almost 40 triple-spins out of 800sta, or which is arount 10 times more triple-spins than you are accounting for.
Even considering today was pretty much a nce in a lifetime level of lucky spins for me (I do admit these numbers are almost unveliebable for BA), luck drifts could never account for a 1000% difference between measures.

That means that your values are just as skewed (to the bad luck side) as mine (to the good luck side).

Once again, that's why I say that for these values to be relevant we'd need to conduct a real long experiment, with more than 2 accounts, and definitely more than 12hs of stamina (or less).
Just to make a point on this, I can tell you that for the whole Guards event I drew 20 to 50 N-Gacha tickets every day, and only saw Akie thrice (and, of course, didn't get her). However, that doesn't mean the probability of getting her was above 1:600, seeing as a few thousand people got her in the first 100 N-Gachas. Thus, their 1000 results of 1:100 have a lot more weight than my 1:600+.

Another example: There's people that got a limited card from Kurito on their first 5 draws (I got Aoe in the first one, and I only gave her a Peranim or Peropudding, can't remember), while there's other people that have been feeding her daily R-Gachas for months and haven't even seen one.

Strange, i've never had a non-triple in GHQ. Admitedly the only days i can test it out are tuesdays, but that's still several tuesdays in a row without any non-triple ever showing up. Not tried anything today since i am trying to get a certain SR card from my current area.

Edit: Just because of this i decided to take a spin at the GHQ again. I actually DID get one non-triple so it does seem like you can get them, but the chances are just very low.

Originally Posted by YoshiEnVerde

There's one problem with the numbers given here:
I have recieved non-triple-spins in GHQ, and quite a lot of them. That means they're not triple-spin-guaranteed (Either that, or I managed to hit a bug).

Can verify that its not a triple guarantee. I most commonly hit 2 misses a day when I spend all my stam on it. 1 miss over a day's time at a slightly lower rate, and some rare days where I've hit 3 misses. Since we've got this investigation in gear now I'll start jotting down my data to contribute to the pool.

My sample size at normal area are around 1500+ spins.

For GHQ I started today so only 130 spins so far!!!
a) 17 * Tripke Pero
b) 23 * Tripke Exp
c) 36 * Tripke Gift
d) 50 * Tripke Chance
e) 4 * Non-Triple (first non-triple after 87 spins)
Data have been collected at 5 different times of day.

Bonus Area around 100 spins so far.

I will update when I got more data it take for me to collect it.

Well, it both nice to know I'm not going crazy with the GHQ non-guaranty, and that we'll do deep research on this.

It's not that I believe the BA to be better than GHQ: I actually agree with the rest of you on just how bad it is.
It's the fact that it might be useful some time, and just dismissing it as worse than anything else would just cripple our effectiveness later.

I'm just OCD like that. Can't leave any tone unturned...

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Originally Posted by Xanthius

Can verify that its not a triple guarantee. I most commonly hit 2 misses a day when I spend all my stam on it. 1 miss over a day's time at a slightly lower rate, and some rare days where I've hit 3 misses. Since we've got this investigation in gear now I'll start jotting down my data to contribute to the pool.

I can confirm that I have had days where I only got around 30% triple-spin in GHQ out of a full day of spins.
I have atrocious luck with spins and the like, so I'm pretty much a good resource for foiling optimistic results in these tests

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Ok, I'll start gathering data on this tonight, after the daily reset.

I'll alternate every day between BA and GHQ, until a decisive pattern emerges (or the Colliseum starts), while having a couple of alts try different stages (1-3 included).

Originally Posted by YoshiEnVerde

It's not that I believe the BA to be better than GHQ: I actually agree with the rest of you on just how bad it is.
It's the fact that it might be useful some time, and just dismissing it as worse than anything else would just cripple our effectiveness later.

Well it's useful whenever the GHQ area has shut down for the day

Jokes aside, it is nice that everyone is collecting data. I won't be able to help a lot with that for a while since i am not in the BA yet, and this also means i cannot access all GHQ areas yet. Got two more girls i need to finish, and i will be stuck on the current until i can get her SR card since it is not available in normal gacha (rather not get an even lower chance later in the BA).

73 spins at GHQ today any yesteday only trippe results so far !!!

You guys are pretty lucky in GHQ. I just leveled up, so I spent a little over 400 stamina in GHQ and there were 3 times that I didn't get a triple hit. That being said, I still think GHQ is far better than the BA since it's possible to spend tons of stamina and not get a triple hit. The odds are just far better in the GHQ

However...because the GHQ is expensive, it can be difficult to get the triple hit that you are aiming for. From personal experience I have noticed that EXP hits seem to happen more in the BA while Chance and Pero tend to happen more in GHQ. This of course is just my personal experience and I don't have solid numbers to hand out aside from what happened to me today....

Spending 440 stamina I have hit these numbers in GHQ:

Chance: 7 times
EXP: 2 times
Pero: 4-5 times
Gift: 4 times
Miss: 3-4 times

This is just today's results. Yesterday I did hit EXP more often, but certainly not as much as the BA.