Say "NO" to Macro Fuhrers! (EvilAngel PeroGambit Blockade)

[Vic47]

So, continuing this thread http://harem-battle.club/peropero-se...-ban-ea-2.html , since it's closed, and since EA didn't stop using macro's to steal all the pink cases during PeroGambit Events right after people spawn them, i hereby join the "no EA on the list" club, and starting to remove players who have him on their Friend List in PeroPero Seduction. No offence, guys, i just don't want to support cheating on other players and support fair gameplay. I might also add you all back after this, and further PeroGambit Event(s) will end if you PM me with a pie or something.
Right now i've cleaned my Friend List from all who feed their cases to The Macro Fuhrer, and have 12 free Friend Slots at the moment - feel free to join in. (My Pero ID is 1058358 )
Also, post here the nicknames/Pero IDs of other Macro Fuhrers and cheaters if you know them.

[Massume]

Well I dont think that it is a wise decision to start calling players ''macro-users'' on this forum without any concrete evidence. I must say that I have certainly noticed suspicious behaviour of some players on my friendlist, but that is not enough in my opinion to start calling them a cheater or making a blockade or whatever.

Second of all, although macro-users are the cause of the problem, let us not forget that Nutaku is responsible for taking care of any rulebreakers. Frankly speaking, I doubt that Nutaku even has the time/money to track down these players nor do they have the technology to find them. So rather than starting a witch hunt, I think that it is problably better to figure out a way that makes these macros useless. For the ''Gambit and the pink boxes issue'', it might be an idea to start putting a cooldown time or a restriction on the pink boxes. That way macros will be less usefull and other players will have a decent chance to open them.

But just to be clear, I am against macro's aswell, but I dont think that blocking people in the game is going to solve this issue.

Though this is just my opinion on this matter.

[chillinfar]

A little closure about that behavior was explained on the mentioned thread. And isn't hard to see, try to pick a pink box in the shortest time possible, you will notice a delay. In my case, the shortest time is 2.8s, but could be a bit faster (2.4-2.5s) if delay couldn't bad in my land

And as i said before, EvilAngel is not the only macro guy in the game, some whales are doing the same and i suspect that's why Nutaku isn't banning anyone despite it violates ToS.

P.S: and as i warned before, perogambit is when friendship ends.

[Vic47]

Well I dont think that it is a wise decision to start calling players ''macro-users'' on this forum without any concrete evidence. I must say that I have certainly noticed suspicious behaviour of some players on my friendlist, but that is not enough in my opinion to start calling them a cheater or making a blockade or whatever.

Second of all, although macro-users are the cause of the problem, let us not forget that Nutaku is responsible for taking care of any rulebreakers. Frankly speaking, I doubt that Nutaku even has the time/money to track down these players nor do they have the technology to find them. So rather than starting a witch hunt, I think that it is problably better to figure out a way that makes these macros useless. For the ''Gambit and the pink boxes issue'', it might be an idea to start putting a cooldown time or a restriction on the pink boxes. That way macros will be less usefull and other players will have a decent chance to open them.

But just to be clear, I am against macro's aswell, but I dont think that blocking people in the game is going to solve this issue.

Though this is just my opinion on this matter.

It is more than obvious. No one can stay online 24/7 and open all the boxes right after they spawn. For that you must become a bot yourself and sit infront of your PC all day long, blindly clicking just tow buttons every second to get all the boxes that spawn ASAP. Even a maniacal gamer like me won't stand doing that for long. I can hardly manage to do a "get 1 SR card" daily quest while rolling the N Gacha 50 imes in a row, so it is 100% macro, not human. I'm not against cheating on the game devs, or, even, piracy, when it comes to insane prices, bad user support and overall treatment ("scamtaku" didn't got this nickname for nothing) or anything, until it hurts other players. But i'm clearly against any kind of cheating that hurts other players or ruinst their gameplay.
I am not in a very friendly relationships with most of the other players to actually call them my Friends, so i don't care much, except for, probably, some, with which i do speak from time to time, who i personally like, or who i am thankful to (like Tomaa and Kotono, who keep updating the Wiki and other things on this website) Still, i'm here to play the game, and if someone ruins my gameplay - i will do anything to get rid of the troublemaker. Especially, when one is a complete stranger to me. There are alot of other players to team-up with, you know, and even among the "whales" there are alot of those who don't have him on their list. More than that, the only major help i get from "whales" is slaying SEGs during SEG events, (which is, first of all, to _their_ benefit, not mine, due to _they_ get all EP and points for killing them, and i only get the elimination counts.) and i can't recall EA helping me there (except, maybe, when i was a total noob and shared even lvl 1 EGs, who he, probably, oneshotted, technically, just stealing EP i could earn myself if i knew i could not share them at all)
And i don't really mind if the other guys use macro's to pop up the boxes, or whatever else, until they don't do it 24/7 and don't ruin my gameplay. I mean, Nutaku is selling keys 1,5k Pero each, but i just keep on stacking them (over 700 already) just because i need Ngacha tickets, and the number isn't reducing as it should - it just grows, becaue EA steals all the boxes and i have nothing to use those keys for.
I mean, that was so, for the last Gambit and until today. Today i removed everyone who had him on the list and the keys finally came in handy. Also, got a bunch of new teammates 1mil SED+ I'm not calling everyone cheaters for no reason, or to totally ban or blockade EA or others (if any) like him, but it is your choice. If someone plays dirty against me - there is no reasonfor me to help them, or suffer from their cheating. But i do know i'm not the only one who is offended by this behaviour, and created this thread to stop the macro-abuse on players, and to help those who will decide to do the same thing that i did (and Previously done by Julia) to refill their list faster, if they'll chose to make a "cleanup" and find new box-spawning friends (with boxes that will actually _last_ more than a second so it's a fair chance for everyone to find and open them). And i'm pretty sure EA can always go and buy whatever he wants for Gold anyway, while for the f2p players evenst are almost the only way to get resources they need.

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perogambit is when friendship ends.

Perogambit is not "when the friendship ends". It is when friends open boxes for each other, and share their boxes with each other, instead of bringing them to the althar of a greedy cheater who treat his friends like milking cattle.

[nip101]

Sadly EA isn't the only one doing this and it seems like its mostly big spenders who are boting for this stuff, I'm friends with another person whose top 10 in most events and hes opened all but maybe 2 of my pink boxes. Luckily I have enough friends that i can still use 50-100 keys a day but they must be using several hundred a day. Also chillin is right that they wont do anything to stop it because its the whales doing it.

[chillinfar]

Perogambit is not "when the friendship ends". It is when friends open boxes for each other, and share their boxes with each other, instead of bringing them to the althar of a greedy cheater who treat his friends like milking cattle.

Unless you got a lot of fast friends, or a 24/7 guy... or a lot of them (FYI, Nutaku ToS tolerate the sharing of accounts; funny fact, but while it means more cash from interested users of that account they aren't worried).

[Armeris]

Vic47, just out of curiosity, what if one of your "real friends" was a friend of EA? Would you be so hypocritical as to eat your words and keep your friends list? Or do you keep your word?

Watching your comments the Christian inquisition and all fascist governments get their approval.

Since this is so personal, I suggest you to take legal action, you know, a complaint to the company, by allowing the use of macros to the rich, and the person who uses them for breaking the law.

[khermeker]

Vic47, just out of curiosity, what if one of your "real friends" was a friend of EA? Would you be so hypocritical as to eat your words and keep your friends list? Or do you keep your word?

Watching your comments the Christian inquisition and all fascist governments get their approval.

Since this is so personal, I suggest you to take legal action, you know, a complaint to the company, by allowing the use of macros to the rich, and the person who uses them for breaking the law.

ok i have to agree with that....i dont have macro friends (im sure of it, no box open before 2 secs and sometimes see ones stay for 5 mins+) still dont know my friends is impossible just spot when pink keys appear still i had open some...

but what bug me is the sr card in case....that is insane rare and kinda unfair...the 50k stamps...well dont know i think i can do it but i will not be sure anytime soon...im waiting for second part for use my stamina refills (have 15 full and 35 half) all my radars (now 60) and have 8k stamps.....after start next part and get the second cheap boost i will start use all my radars i hope get 12k-13k in first part and with luck the rest in second part using stamina a lot of stamina.

[DragonSR]

I gotta agree with the Macro problem. At least its only for this Event and not others.

[Vic47]

Vic47, just out of curiosity, what if one of your "real friends" was a friend of EA? Would you be so hypocritical as to eat your words and keep your friends list? Or do you keep your word?

Watching your comments the Christian inquisition and all fascist governments get their approval.

Since this is so personal, I suggest you to take legal action, you know, a complaint to the company, by allowing the use of macros to the rich, and the person who uses them for breaking the law.

So you know, i even removed Kotono for this reason, while i am really thankful to him for his great job on this forum and the Wiki i use alot, and Julia removed me before for the same reason, while we do have a chitchat from time to time, so i, probably, can consider him my Friend. (Though, Julia backpedalled here, as you can read in his thread, because he considers EA his real Friend, so i might remove him later as well, if he will re-add EA later - and he is AFK for 9 days already in PPS, anyway)

No hipocricy here, no double standarts. And anyway, this is just a game. As i said before - no offence. The fact i am removing someone from a friend list on a given game doesn't mean i will quit speaking with you on the forums or anything else, just because you have someone i don't like on your Friend List in some game. But i do dislike people who ruin another people's joy from games or otherwise bully them and that will never change.

Also, just so you know - _you_ are still on my list just because you've changed your leading card. I don't like futa alot, so i was planning to remove you from the list long time ago because of that. Good thing my friend list expanded so i got alot of other friends to tag with pies from both sides of your position and you've changed your leading card, so i don't have to look at this dickgirl every day. Not that i have something positive or negative about you on my mind, i just don't like dickgirls. And i don't want something i don't like in games or other places i come to relax, have fun and enjoy.
And i will sure clear my mind about EA's cheating if he'll stop doing that. But, as far they (macro cheaters) don't care about us, i'm not going to care about them, and help them thrive. they can just buy whatever they need, after all, while f2p players already are getting alot less than they are just because of the Scamtaku policy.
And about the "legal action" blah-blah, i've sent alot of Support Tickets to Nutaku about the "maco problem" but they never replied - probably, because of _their_ hipocricy on some of the "whales" violating their ToS, just because it is just a big a "cash grab machine", and they don't really care, for what people will pay them, until they pay. As someone mentioned before on this forum, hosters of games like PPS, like Nutaku, get most of their cash from 0.001% of the players or something... so they will never change anything towards the other 99+% until they get their cash from those few big spenders.
A've also sent alot of Tickets about other problems to them, but never got any single reply and ingame changes, except that they told me that they'll ban some asshat who was abusing me and other layers with mouthy pie messages, but they never banned him anyway, or didn't even removed his swearings and insults from our Pie Message Lists, and once they've fixed a Daili Flirting Mission description, that stated you should get "3 R cards" or something to get "Wild Card" while it was actually "Get 3 SR cards" to get "1 EX Wild Card" (but they still haven't changd the reward description) and they fixed "Wild Card" prize info on "Get 1 SR Card" to "SR Wild Card" that i asked them to do in teh same Support Ticket, but that's all. So i doubt that "legal actions" will have any effect, no matter how many times i, or other F2Ps will try.
I can also tell you a story about a "riot" donators once started on VK.com about PlayFlock's game "Madness" when PlayFlock messed up the gameplay with another update, and the top spenders decided to stop donating until the update would be removed from the game, and the result was that PlayFlock just banned the accounts of all who subscribed to the "Riot" community page on VK, both donators and f2p, both in the game and on their community page on VK, so i doubt "legal actions" worth anything in case of Scamtaku aswell. It's just the players who must somehow deal with their problems, and that's it.