I just noticed it.

I dont understand... what are they expecting from making the map slightly harder, thus highly reducing a chance of full clear ?
That everyone will spend Fgems to refill stamina and run it again coz they did not get all the chests ?
Really ? .... like REALLY ? T______T
Un-fucking-believable. Thats just a way to annoy people with literally NO tangible benefit, like none at all.

Originally Posted by Myrdin

I dont understand... what are they expecting from making the map slightly harder, thus highly reducing a chance of full clear ?
That everyone will spend Fgems to refill stamina and run it again coz they did not get all the chests ?
Really ? .... like REALLY ? T______T
Un-fucking-believable. Thats just a way to annoy people with literally NO tangible benefit, like none at all.

The worst part is: You always get "big chests" in the DMM Version, not this Lvl 5 Manyu shit and those little buggers are a very common drop in the Nutaku Version

Most of the time you will end a Manyu Daily Map with 2 small chests and 2 big chests in the Nutaku Version...

Originally Posted by Wutan

The worst part is: You always get "big chests" in the DMM Version which means no Lvl 5 Manyus like the Nutaku Version.
Most of the time you will end a Manyu Daily Map with 2 small chests and 2 big chests in the Nutaku Version...

Do note that the 80 stamina maps were changed in August of this year. They were the same as Nutaku minus the extra chest.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Do note that the 80 stamina maps were changed in August of this year. They were the same as Nutaku minus the extra chest.

Good to know. Doesn't change the big difference in generosity. Look at the current DMM Lottery. It's amazing.
Well in the Nutaku Version 12-5 is still better for farming Manyus even with the unintentional Bonus Chest.

Nutaku's Main Selling Points:

1. The Language cause almost everyone can speak english.
2. Autorun
3. More Options for Whales (Nutaku has more Special Gachas than DMM)

DMM Main Selling Points:

1. Generosity Level is high
2. More Content
3. better Compensations if they fucked something up
4. more FGs. In the Nutaku Version F2P have to grind a full month for 50 gems. In the DMM Version you will get 50 gems in two weeks

Now you have to decide which Version is better

Originally Posted by Myrdin

I dont understand... what are they expecting from making the map slightly harder, thus highly reducing a chance of full clear ?
That everyone will spend Fgems to refill stamina and run it again coz they did not get all the chests ?
Really ? .... like REALLY ? T______T
Un-fucking-believable. Thats just a way to annoy people with literally NO tangible benefit, like none at all.

These uninformed posts are really starting to get on my fucking nerves.

Do they ever inform why the map is slightly different? Was the original map like Nutaku in the beginning?

Originally Posted by Eab1990

These uninformed posts are really starting to get on my fucking nerves.

As does someone "I know it all" attitude get on mine, call it even or dont call it anything, matters none to me.
Apropos to my question just how is it uninformed hmm ? (deaming a question uninformed in the first place is a joke of in and of itself as the question is the base form for information)

Originally Posted by Myrdin

As does someone "I know it all" attitude get on mine, call it even or dont call it anything, matters none to me.
Apropos to my question just how is it uninformed hmm ? (deaming a question uninformed in the first place is a joke of in and of itself as the question is the base form for information)

Because like mentioned, it was a recent change and not "Nutaku is out to screw you over because they hate free players".

Yeah, Nutaku does a lot of shitty things with other games (hi SenPro), but a little bit of thinking goes a long way here. Has Nutaku FKG changed ANY other map just to fuck with players? Like physically moved around nodes to make the map harder?

No? Then why the fuck is that your first conclusion here?

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Because like mentioned, it was a recent change and not "Nutaku is out to screw you over because they hate free players".

Yeah, Nutaku does a lot of shitty things with other games (hi SenPro), but a little bit of thinking goes a long way here. Has Nutaku FKG changed ANY other map just to fuck with players? Like physically moved around nodes to make the map harder?

No? Then why the fuck is that your first conclusion here?

Had I been displaying such train of thoughts in the first place I might have been in agreement with you there. However by no margin have I explicitly taken is a "done deal" thing - "Yes Nutaku wants to raise the heat a bit, they certainly did this in order to screw around with us players". None of that. While I might have been entertaining the thought of such a thing, it would have been not for the thing itself, rather than WHY would they do it, or even better WHAT was the thought process behind such a change - which ultimately was the core of my inquiry.

Why you ask ? Because it seems to me rather damn bloody obvious just HOW inconsistent Nutaku is in their endeavors. As I mentioned in another thread it feels almost "schizophrenic" like they do one thing at first and then do the complete opposite for no other reason as to just contradict themselves. Seeing such an erratic behavior... one may hardly fault me for thinking them do things for no logical reason other than "just because".