Originally Posted by Myrdin

I dont understand... what are they expecting from making the map slightly harder, thus highly reducing a chance of full clear ?
That everyone will spend Fgems to refill stamina and run it again coz they did not get all the chests ?
Really ? .... like REALLY ? T______T
Un-fucking-believable. Thats just a way to annoy people with literally NO tangible benefit, like none at all.

These uninformed posts are really starting to get on my fucking nerves.

Do they ever inform why the map is slightly different? Was the original map like Nutaku in the beginning?

Originally Posted by Eab1990

These uninformed posts are really starting to get on my fucking nerves.

As does someone "I know it all" attitude get on mine, call it even or dont call it anything, matters none to me.
Apropos to my question just how is it uninformed hmm ? (deaming a question uninformed in the first place is a joke of in and of itself as the question is the base form for information)

Originally Posted by Myrdin

As does someone "I know it all" attitude get on mine, call it even or dont call it anything, matters none to me.
Apropos to my question just how is it uninformed hmm ? (deaming a question uninformed in the first place is a joke of in and of itself as the question is the base form for information)

Because like mentioned, it was a recent change and not "Nutaku is out to screw you over because they hate free players".

Yeah, Nutaku does a lot of shitty things with other games (hi SenPro), but a little bit of thinking goes a long way here. Has Nutaku FKG changed ANY other map just to fuck with players? Like physically moved around nodes to make the map harder?

No? Then why the fuck is that your first conclusion here?

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Because like mentioned, it was a recent change and not "Nutaku is out to screw you over because they hate free players".

Yeah, Nutaku does a lot of shitty things with other games (hi SenPro), but a little bit of thinking goes a long way here. Has Nutaku FKG changed ANY other map just to fuck with players? Like physically moved around nodes to make the map harder?

No? Then why the fuck is that your first conclusion here?

Had I been displaying such train of thoughts in the first place I might have been in agreement with you there. However by no margin have I explicitly taken is a "done deal" thing - "Yes Nutaku wants to raise the heat a bit, they certainly did this in order to screw around with us players". None of that. While I might have been entertaining the thought of such a thing, it would have been not for the thing itself, rather than WHY would they do it, or even better WHAT was the thought process behind such a change - which ultimately was the core of my inquiry.

Why you ask ? Because it seems to me rather damn bloody obvious just HOW inconsistent Nutaku is in their endeavors. As I mentioned in another thread it feels almost "schizophrenic" like they do one thing at first and then do the complete opposite for no other reason as to just contradict themselves. Seeing such an erratic behavior... one may hardly fault me for thinking them do things for no logical reason other than "just because".

You specifically said "why did they make the map harder" and went on a paranoid tangent about how this is secretly a way to get people to spend FGs for a full clear because >logic.

It was then just pointed out to you that it was the reverse and DMM made it easier (and even that is debatable).

So yeah. What else am I supposed to think besides "crazy uninformed post"? Regardless of your intentions, you made it pretty clear that you thought Nutaku was the culprit at first.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

It was then just pointed out to you that it was the reverse and DMM made it easier (and even that is debatable).

Eh, no, it's not debatable. The new version has a 12.5% chance of missing one chest and no chance of missing the others.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Eh, no, it's not debatable. The new version has a 12.5% chance of missing one chest and no chance of missing the others.

I was more concerned with the 3* argument and the pest that's now in the middle of the puny pest nests. The top pest is now guaranteed, but you need at least two to go through the middle and split, and only one is guaranteed with the default setup. You could try a 4-1 approach, but then the bottom-left pest is a 50-50. Eh.

Chest-wise, yeah, the new version is better.