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    Edited my own Sig to fit in with the updated theme

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    Last edited by Myrdin; 10-22-2017 at 03:15 AM.

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    Ohoho that looks awesome. Didn't know she had a bloom form already and boy isn't that beautiful! Now I wanna get her on both DMM n Nutaku already :[
    Anyway, really damn good, loved the background pic and the font didn't hurt my eyes to see the ID. Thanks man, keep improving cuz I know ya can get even better.
    Cheers.


    Nutaku ID: 503483705 | DMM ID: 434650961



  3. #3
    Hallo hallo.

    I see you started using borders. Noice. Looks sexy. Someone already mentioned this, but you could just add top and bottom borders without the side ones. It's more of a taste preference than anything. Up to you. I personally like 4-way borders, although smaller than yours.

    So currently there's a few major problems that you have on your hands.

    #1. You are combining a background image of a real life flower with anime art style girls as renders. Generally speaking, that is not going to work because one is disconnected from the other (i.e., the flow is ruined). I know that you are trying to keep in touch with each girl being a representation of a real life flower, but it might not be worth it. I mean, look at Nerine. She's supposed to be pink/red/white and yet she's blue of all things. Whoever made her must have been colour blind.

    What I'm getting at is that using hand drawn flower backgrounds might reduce the disconnection between the background and the renders. The downside is that you probably won't find the specific flowers you are looking for.

    #2. Your font is still... well... off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    But more to the point, you need to ask yourself this - are all of those numbers really necessary? I mean, you could just add them beneath the signature. I know you might want them in the signature, but they are a distraction from it. On top of that, now that you removed those text borders, the background is blending with the text.

    #3. You should start thinking about colour composition. Choose 1-2-3 focal colours from your render and use them only. Right now there might be too much colour variation. Especially if those colours aren't complimentary. I'm not sure if it's easy for you, but if you ever decide to get PS, it will become a must.


    I've included this just so you get a taste as to what can be done. I don't consider myself to be good at this, but I must say I think this particular image came out really well. Check it out. The borders on this one are white, so you can't see them. Funny enough, I was trying to replicate a guide with this one.

    Myrdins "Custom Signatures Workshop"-serene-mind.png




    Made ya look! ^_^


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    Quote Originally Posted by Soltrec View Post
    Hallo hallo.

    I see you started using borders. Noice. Looks sexy. Someone already mentioned this, but you could just add top and bottom borders without the side ones. It's more of a taste preference than anything. Up to you. I personally like 4-way borders, although smaller than yours.

    So currently there's a few major problems that you have on your hands.

    #1. You are combining a background image of a real life flower with anime art style girls as renders. Generally speaking, that is not going to work because one is disconnected from the other (i.e., the flow is ruined). I know that you are trying to keep in touch with each girl being a representation of a real life flower, but it might not be worth it. I mean, look at Nerine. She's supposed to be pink/red/white and yet she's blue of all things. Whoever made her must have been colour blind.

    What I'm getting at is that using hand drawn flower backgrounds might reduce the disconnection between the background and the renders. The downside is that you probably won't find the specific flowers you are looking for.

    #2. Your font is still... well... off. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    But more to the point, you need to ask yourself this - are all of those numbers really necessary? I mean, you could just add them beneath the signature. I know you might want them in the signature, but they are a distraction from it. On top of that, now that you removed those text borders, the background is blending with the text.

    #3. You should start thinking about colour composition. Choose 1-2-3 focal colours from your render and use them only. Right now there might be too much colour variation. Especially if those colours aren't complimentary. I'm not sure if it's easy for you, but if you ever decide to get PS, it will become a must.


    I've included this just so you get a taste as to what can be done. I don't consider myself to be good at this, but I must say I think this particular image came out really well. Check it out. The borders on this one are white, so you can't see them. Funny enough, I was trying to replicate a guide with this one.

    Myrdins "Custom Signatures Workshop"-serene-mind.png
    Welcome back :P

    Thanks, yeah I played around with some of the concepts you talked about before and tested things out within the limitation of the current software I have and the overall effect improved a lot compared to the first signatures I made here. Now I will be upgrading to ZPS 16 since I learned it has some more utility and quality of life improvements over the v.14 I am using, but I honestly dont have the time nor imminent intent to start learning and using Photoshop, so this also addresses one of the points you wrote below in your comment.

    *The new version also has text outlines, I´ve seen some videos and with those options I can finally get the text to work within the confines of the picture and make it be easy to read, and not blend into it to much while also maintaining the appropriate color scheme thus avoid disturbing the signature itself.
    As for the font..... meh, its fancy oui ! *Insert obligatory Gentleman meme here*

    As for the Background thing - that was the main intention and the reason why I started doing them like I do. To you it might feel disturbing but to me it makes thematic sense since I was aiming for the contrast between the real life flower and the anime picture.
    Certainly I could go shopping for some animated backgrounds but first off that defeats the whole theme I tried to establish, and secondly - its incredibely hard, nah... its impossible to find drawn picture of all the flowers. Heck in some cases its hard to get a real life photo of a flower that I feel is good enough (though that might be just my personality acting).
    Now I might drop the whole flower background which would give me massive freedom, since I could literally use anything and everything... but again - that defeats the point I am trying to make in those signatures.

    The thing you made looks nice and shiny, but I am not aiming for something similar to that. The amount of time I have to spend on these is rather finite, and while I want them to be as best as they can be within the limits of time and effort, meaning I am trying to improve upon the design, the moment it start to be to demanding to make I would have to drop it and just not make them anymore.
    Right now I can make a pretty decent looking signature that fits the bill withing 5 minutes if I can get a good background picture quickly. It takes much longer if I cant find one that fits my taste for the work. So you could say I have the proces automated in a way.

    Again, I apppreciate your imput and I want you to know that and I am sure it works well for what you were trying to achieve with it.
    Regardless of how dismissive what I write might sound. I hope my explanation as to what I want to achieve and how much I am willing/am able to invest in it doesnt come off as me pretending to know better or not wanting to accept criticism and feedback, coz that iss really not how I want to come across as. Thanks for taking the time and giving some more advice, the current improvement to the signatures were mostly due to you chirping in and showing me the basic ropes of "signaturing".
    Cheers !

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    Big Update (kinda): Anyone who has one of my former design signatures > I will be updating them to the current new design, prioritizing the claimed ones first. While I hope to get them done all by tomorrow its possible it might not be so. Anyway, this is to let you know that the new improved designes are coming, and if you want to change your current sig to the new one, refer to the OP of this thread for the update. (Really glad I made that post, helps to keep all of it nicely in one place, and easy to access to.). So just check in at the end of the day tomorrow or the day after tomorrow for the update to your signature.
    Last edited by Myrdin; 10-22-2017 at 11:10 PM.

  5. #5
    Nah, it's fine. Shoulda just told me you were going for something to be done in 5 minutes. I wouldn't have even brought up most of my criticisms if I knew that earlier. In any case, good luck to ya.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Soltrec View Post
    Nah, it's fine. Shoulda just told me you were going for something to be done in 5 minutes. I wouldn't have even brought up most of my criticisms if I knew that earlier. In any case, good luck to ya.
    Well you gave me quite the extensive advice and in your response you tried to teach and point me towards all sort of things that could help me improve the final product, and I felt that after investing such effort and time into a post like that, it was only appropriate from me to respond in kind and give you a proper explanation regarding each point that you in my mind deserved, rather than just brush you off with something like "Nah no time".

    I am kinda a ranter and do tend to write my posts long in order to give as clear and detailed answer to people as I can (again thats my detailist personality acting up), so simetimes I loose myself and write a short novel like post, but it is always with the person I am responding to in mind.

    ....damn and there I go again with the long answer. But I believe you get the point I am trying to make so in the end its fine

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    UPDATE COMPLETE !
    ALL SIGNATURES HAVE BEEN OVERHAULED AND UPDATED IN THE OP OF THE THREAD !
    GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR NEW, SHINIER VERSION RIGHT NOW GUYS !
    Last edited by Myrdin; 10-23-2017 at 05:16 AM.

  7. #7
    Thanks for your update appreciated

  8. #8
    Would it be possible to replace Nutaku ID with DMM ID on the signature, if it wouldn't be much trouble? It's 636783227.
    Last edited by Caitlenren; 11-27-2017 at 04:40 AM.

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