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    Normally I'm not this annoyed but I got enough going on irl to draw up a storm. And it doesn't help to be constantly reminded of the overly irritating complacency of this generation. This animosity is probably gonna come off as unpleasant, possibly unacceptable so to those not wanting to see it but having to do so anyways, I apologize in advance.

    I've been acquainted albeit briefly with EA and I've never really had the issue of my pink cases getting jacked excessively. I could still find some pinks to unlock and for this event I pretty much used up all my keys anyways. It helps that I have over 50 friends on PPS and I've tried to keep fairly active ones and while it doesn't compare to alot of the top players' 100, it's still something.

    Now maybe, MAYBE it was because I wasn't even paying attention to the note that my friends associated with EA were never giving me pink cases to open every time I checked. As far as I was concerned, it didn't matter; I often got more pink case requests from players probably not associated with a "macro" user than I had keys anyways and if I didn't use the keys, someone else would within the hour. But the fact of the matter is, I have the luxury of my friends NOT associated with someone allegedly doing these "macro" whatevers, and that made the event pleasant...well, whatever counts as pleasant given the unpleasantness of the event in general.

    Which is why I'm curious as to why you can't do the same. For all this bitching and whining about someone stealing "your" pink cases, you don't seem that aware of the note that players can't touch the cases of players they aren't friends of. If you're really, REALLY having trouble facing off against a player in a pink case showdown, ask this friend of yours if he/she can cut the cord, as the first issue would be that you want to keep your friends but you don't want your friends to keep theirs. If they refuse on that end, the alternative is to cut the cord yourself and get some new ones. It's that simple...seriously.

    But noooo, instead you jump on here and try to rile up the community with your "cheating" this and "macro" that and all the while having forgotten your common logic because you seem to think everyone's a greedy little socialist just like you. Well, FUCK YOU, you sad excuse for a kid. If you can't even figure your way around your self-perceived messes and have to go crying to the player base, you have no place here so go move to a nation that supports your uneducated backwards mindset or commit suicide and take your chances in the next world. This place could certainly afford one less shitty sheep.

    And don't go saying you're doing this for the other people...these so-called unspoken lost lambs in the same predicament you are in. They have just as much opportunity and power to take things into their own hands and make things work out. If they can't do something that fucking obvious, then they should fuck off all the same. Then again, I suppose it's suitable for you be the representative of these whiny little shit-stains, with your like minds that let you all stand in the circle to bleat to the world about its unfairness and all, hoping the collective shit-talk will amount to something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ladies lover View Post
    man ! I thought you were playing dumb but now I am sure you are really dumb and not playing it .

    It was just an Express a metaphor !

    ok . since you are your wife's husband go open her pink cases and kill her SEGs .LOL

    I hope you got it.
    Bad capitalization, bad spacing between punctuation, questionable punctuation to begin with, odd use of expressions...and I think I pick a hint of outright sexism there (nobody openly likes misogyny so you better not, you dick-for-brains)

    Common whiny loser mindset, all the more supported by you trying to taunt people with empty words in a lack of understanding of what people are actually saying. No one here's going to deem you worth talking to with that non-constructive shit so I have to wonder why you haven't stopped given the pointlessness of it all.

    Or what? Do you really think this is helpful to someone out there? Are you really so fucked up out of your mind that you think bitching like this is actually constructive in some way? If so, just get out, go ragequit at this game, ragequit at life. To me, you didn't exist up until this point and as far as I see it now, if this is all you're made of, you don't DESERVE to.















    On a semi-sympathetic note, I can more or less understand the stress, though it should really be directed at the event rather than individual players. This event was absurdly short, and...given the nature of how the event operates itself, panic was fairly warranted.

    I mean, think about it. Compared to certain other events, stage rewards are minimal but require quite a lot of stamina investment. For that matter, stamina can be wasted if a bad pick is made at the end of each stage, additional rewards are available through event points (which require Special Effect Cards through gacha, costs real money) or through these gold/silver/pink cases (which require keys, by-products of real money purchases). So out of all the event types in PPS to date, Gambit can be noted as one of the most (if not the outright most) high-cost, low-reward events out there. And since as gamers, we potentially judge OUR OWN progress and ability by the rewards we gain, not getting as much as we'd like deals a pretty heavy blow whether or not we realize it.

    And instead of taking it out on the event coordinators or the game itself, we find ourselves in the worst of times directing it unfairly to those who are just trying to make the best of something naturally shitty. Maybe it really is unfair, but then again, many things in life really aren't. In the natural course of things, we as humans ultimately suck it up and put up with it or if that isn't an option, go elsewhere and try to change the degree of unfairness to an acceptable level. Only time we stand up and fight all the way is when both of those options, and any other way of dealing with it in a civilized fashion, aren't acceptable.

    We often don't realize it, let alone openly admit to it much, but these events...for that matter ones in life that set such a stark contrast between people who have advantages and people who don't, can really wear down on us. I've been running 4 events all at the same time (Hitsuji Chronicle, PeroPero Seduction, Osawari Island, Millenium War Aigis) and the amount of real money it takes to get to a satisfactory (not even necessarily great) point in all of them is taxing...possibly more than what I can afford to begin with. I'm crossing Osawari and Aigis events off the list but even then...I plan to take a minimalist "don't care what I get or don't get" approach to PPS events after the next EG event and outright stop participating in the Hitsuji ones. There's just...too much stress to put up with and in trying to be the community-friendly person that I want to be, I'd hate myself if I chose to take all that stress and direct it at someone who's probably struggling all the same and most definitely undeserving of my rage.

    So the hypocrisy of this aside, for the sake of trying to keep things constructive...try to be reasonable here. As gamers, when an event wears down on us hard, we're all suffering. The least you can do is avoid trying to make a scapegoat for the masses just because history has shown it to work in the past.

    Anyone who finds the odd desire to move this to the thread that has much more flak under the idea that it'll make a point, be my guest. I'll be too busy playing Metal Gear Solid V and trying to keep up with the Hitsuji event to care. My statement will remain: if you can't be a reasonable, resourceful, constructive (or at least understanding) player, gtfo.
    Last edited by ChibiKika; 03-12-2016 at 05:34 AM.

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by ChibiKika View Post
    Normally I'm not this annoyed but I got enough going on irl to draw up a storm. And it doesn't help to be constantly reminded of the overly irritating complacency of this generation. This animosity is probably gonna come off as unpleasant, possibly unacceptable so to those not wanting to see it but having to do so anyways, I apologize in advance.

    I've been acquainted albeit briefly with EA and I've never really had the issue of my pink cases getting jacked excessively. I could still find some pinks to unlock and for this event I pretty much used up all my keys anyways. It helps that I have over 50 friends on PPS and I've tried to keep fairly active ones and while it doesn't compare to alot of the top players' 100, it's still something.

    Now maybe, MAYBE it was because I wasn't even paying attention to the note that my friends associated with EA were never giving me pink cases to open every time I checked. As far as I was concerned, it didn't matter; I often got more pink case requests from players probably not associated with a "macro" user than I had keys anyways and if I didn't use the keys, someone else would within the hour. But the fact of the matter is, I have the luxury of my friends NOT associated with someone allegedly doing these "macro" whatevers, and that made the event pleasant...well, whatever counts as pleasant given the unpleasantness of the event in general.

    Which is why I'm curious as to why you can't do the same. For all this bitching and whining about someone stealing "your" pink cases, you don't seem that aware of the note that players can't touch the cases of players they aren't friends of. If you're really, REALLY having trouble facing off against a player in a pink case showdown, ask this friend of yours if he/she can cut the cord, as the first issue would be that you want to keep your friends but you don't want your friends to keep theirs. If they refuse on that end, the alternative is to cut the cord yourself and get some new ones. It's that simple...seriously.

    But noooo, instead you jump on here and try to rile up the community with your "cheating" this and "macro" that and all the while having forgotten your common logic because you seem to think everyone's a greedy little socialist just like you. Well, FUCK YOU, you sad excuse for a kid. If you can't even figure your way around your self-perceived messes and have to go crying to the player base, you have no place here so go move to a nation that supports your uneducated backwards mindset or commit suicide and take your chances in the next world. This place could certainly afford one less shitty sheep.

    And don't go saying you're doing this for the other people...these so-called unspoken lost lambs in the same predicament you are in. They have just as much opportunity and power to take things into their own hands and make things work out. If they can't do something that fucking obvious, then they should fuck off all the same. Then again, I suppose it's suitable for you be the representative of these whiny little shit-stains, with your like minds that let you all stand in the circle to bleat to the world about its unfairness and all, hoping the collective shit-talk will amount to something.



    Bad capitalization, bad spacing between punctuation, questionable punctuation to begin with, odd use of expressions...and I think I pick a hint of outright sexism there (nobody openly likes misogyny so you better not, you dick-for-brains)

    Common whiny loser mindset, all the more supported by you trying to taunt people with empty words in a lack of understanding of what people are actually saying. No one here's going to deem you worth talking to with that non-constructive shit so I have to wonder why you haven't stopped given the pointlessness of it all.

    Or what? Do you really think this is helpful to someone out there? Are you really so fucked up out of your mind that you think bitching like this is actually constructive in some way? If so, just get out, go ragequit at this game, ragequit at life. To me, you didn't exist up until this point and as far as I see it now, if this is all you're made of, you don't DESERVE to.















    On a semi-sympathetic note, I can more or less understand the stress, though it should really be directed at the event rather than individual players. This event was absurdly short, and...given the nature of how the event operates itself, panic was fairly warranted.

    I mean, think about it. Compared to certain other events, stage rewards are minimal but require quite a lot of stamina investment. For that matter, stamina can be wasted if a bad pick is made at the end of each stage, additional rewards are available through event points (which require Special Effect Cards through gacha, costs real money) or through these gold/silver/pink cases (which require keys, by-products of real money purchases). So out of all the event types in PPS to date, Gambit can be noted as one of the most (if not the outright most) high-cost, low-reward events out there. And since as gamers, we potentially judge OUR OWN progress and ability by the rewards we gain, not getting as much as we'd like deals a pretty heavy blow whether or not we realize it.

    And instead of taking it out on the event coordinators or the game itself, we find ourselves in the worst of times directing it unfairly to those who are just trying to make the best of something naturally shitty. Maybe it really is unfair, but then again, many things in life really aren't. In the natural course of things, we as humans ultimately suck it up and put up with it or if that isn't an option, go elsewhere and try to change the degree of unfairness to an acceptable level. Only time we stand up and fight all the way is when both of those options, and any other way of dealing with it in a civilized fashion, aren't acceptable.

    We often don't realize it, let alone openly admit to it much, but these events...for that matter ones in life that set such a stark contrast between people who have advantages and people who don't, can really wear down on us. I've been running 4 events all at the same time (Hitsuji Chronicle, PeroPero Seduction, Osawari Island, Millenium War Aigis) and the amount of real money it takes to get to a satisfactory (not even necessarily great) point in all of them is taxing...possibly more than what I can afford to begin with. I'm crossing Osawari and Aigis events off the list but even then...I plan to take a minimalist "don't care what I get or don't get" approach to PPS events after the next EG event and outright stop participating in the Hitsuji ones. There's just...too much stress to put up with and in trying to be the community-friendly person that I want to be, I'd hate myself if I chose to take all that stress and direct it at someone who's probably struggling all the same and most definitely undeserving of my rage.

    So the hypocrisy of this aside, for the sake of trying to keep things constructive...try to be reasonable here. As gamers, when an event wears down on us hard, we're all suffering. The least you can do is avoid trying to make a scapegoat for the masses just because history has shown it to work in the past.

    Anyone who finds the odd desire to move this to the thread that has much more flak under the idea that it'll make a point, be my guest. I'll be too busy playing Metal Gear Solid V and trying to keep up with the Hitsuji event to care. My statement will remain: if you can't be a reasonable, resourceful, constructive (or at least understanding) player, gtfo.
    You wouldn't happen to be American and 35 years old, would you? I'd vote for you for President of the United States in a heartbeat.

    In all seriousness, I want to commend this post as being THE most rational one I've seen on this forum. Ever. You speak eloquently, and I appreciate you taking the time to write it.

  3. #3
    Obama ruined hentai. Vote Trump.
    Give one F2P game to a Korean: He will turn it in a P2W (pay to win)
    Give one F2P to an American: He will turn it in a P2F (Pay to fail)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chillinfar View Post
    Obama ruined hentai. Vote Trump.
    Against my better judgement, I have to ask. How did Obama ruin hentai?

  5. #5
    Obama ruined hentai because Trump says so and everything Trump says is 100% true - lol.

  6. #6
    Nutaku is enough proof.
    Give one F2P game to a Korean: He will turn it in a P2W (pay to win)
    Give one F2P to an American: He will turn it in a P2F (Pay to fail)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chillinfar View Post
    Obama ruined hentai. Vote Trump.
    You know that Trump said at one point to close the Internet down, because it's too dangerous. I don't think so

    P.S.: Here is the quote:
    "We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."
    rofl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overload View Post
    You know that Trump said at one point to close the Internet down, because it's too dangerous. I don't think so

    P.S.: Here is the quote:
    "We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet," Trump said. "We have to go see Bill Gates and a lot of different people that really understand what's happening. We have to talk to them about, maybe in certain areas, closing that Internet up in some way. Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people."
    rofl
    All we are fucked by any way.
    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...no-sense.shtml

    The Trump reference is just a troll post due to lack of sense on this thread. But the Obama reference is beyond truth.

    Say bye to DMM when the Transpacific is on.
    Last edited by chillinfar; 03-12-2016 at 10:41 AM.
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    Well, partially i can't say JSensei is wrong, top spenders do our job on SEGs every bloody EG event. And yes, Pink boxes really contain trash, most of the time. (this time they even didn't have RGacha until Phase 2) But they still contain some Kairo, so if an f2p player would get as much pinks as macro's do, he could be closer to that 50k reward, which is very hard (almost impossible i'd say) to get for an f2p without SR SECs even with the effort i put into Gambit. Plus, Getting the cutest limited girls is more valueable than getting Pero, SR Wilds, R gacha and even Revgacha people get from Elite Guards slayed by top spenders, because they can get that stuff over time anyway (just way slower) and reward cards are not so hot in EG events usually - that's why people feel bad about being robbed of pink boxes the most, i think.
    Besides, during this gambit i put all on gold/silver boxes, skipping 1 focus fights, and in the end i got like 10 Gold boxes gone to waste, still locked, by the end of gambit, and around 15 Silvers opened just by my old and random low-to-average level friends, by 1 or 2 per person, while i asked for help on Discord and recieved no help from big spenders (who pretty sure had enough extra keys to help me and open my expiring gold and silver boxes, but decided to not bother and save them for the future). So i've got screwed all over in this Gambit and had to do all the work myself, wasting all my 6 egacha tickets that i've saved since the previous Gambit and like half of my peronamin stock to echieve 51k without help (i could save those resources if someone would open those cases for me and i'd get some PeroGlasses from them).
    I know they kidna buy those keys with real money and can decide by themselves how and when to use them, and i made a second macro shittherad on EA and removed everyone who had him on their list and those who i considered macros' before i reconsidered their help on EG, and i still "won" this gambit all the way, no matter what, but still this time it felt kinda several times worse than usual, since i got screwed not only by Nutaku's rules this time as usual, and by the changes they've made to this particular Gambit, and got "robbed" of pink boxes by macros as usual, but also got ignored in my cry for help, which made me totally fail with my strategy and lose most of the rewards i was planning to get, but also had to waste half of my "emergecy stash" and still have quite a bad luck at eGacha) to win kinda crappy (for my taste) card (just because i had to test my new Gambit strategy i was taught before).
    But whatever. Screw that Gambit and move on to EG. And yeah, whatever, all this Hentai games fun can soon come to an end for most of us because of those stupid politics, anyway, so, why bother at all... =_="

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSensei View Post
    You wouldn't happen to be American and 35 years old, would you? I'd vote for you for President of the United States in a heartbeat.

    In all seriousness, I want to commend this post as being THE most rational one I've seen on this forum. Ever. You speak eloquently, and I appreciate you taking the time to write it.
    I agree. Just as ChibiKika said (and i was saying almost this when i've started my "EA is a macro and i'm not going to keep him or anyone who has him on their friend list on my friend list" after Julia's initial thread about EA uses macros) it's Nutaku or DMM to blame in the first place, not the players, and i can't blame people who macro even if/ because they do so to get the best they can from the situation created by who's writing rules for the game, and don't have anything personal against those players, but cutting cords just to make my best of pink case rewards stuff.
    And yes, ChibiKika is totally right about the "stress thing". Games are meant to bring us joy, not stress, and if they bring us stress instead of joy (for instance - because they are made so they bring joy only /mostly to those who pay for it) we are always free to decide for ourselves, when to stop and if we should to stop, or stay and play if we constider it somehow reasonable. For instance, i really wanted Karen, but doing bothe Osawari and PPS events, and a shitton of real life problems at the same time (and learning Osawari gameplay on teh fly) just gave me so much stress i've almost snapped out of my sanity one day, after what i said myself "stop now. it's just a card and doesn't worth it in the end" and dropped OI (and almost dropped PPS too, but calmed down a bit and decided to stay after all - just care a little less for this game and all those cards from now on).
    After all, i play online games because i have no social life IRl and no occupation, so i play them to occupy my time with some "everyday scheduled activity that gives me at least some fun" and for social interactions - and if something leasds to this "game-related social activity" turning into shitstorms - i don't want it to continue this way - i've got enough shitstorms and stress IRL and dn't want that crap here too, in the Net. If the game turns it into a shitstorm i should rather change my mind about this game and start to care less for the game and more for it's community, or scrap tht game and find a better one, that won't bring up such problems because it's made that shitty by the devs. The re are always alot of better games and better ways to interact with people, to change to that, is this game ruins it's community and brings bad experience instead of the good one to me.

    Lol, btw. At some point i just thought "so, Nutaku's ToS are not against sharing accounts with other people, and EA and some other top accounts were said to be played by several different people at once (at different time) so why not just make a single common account that any member of community could access to check out artworks/movies etc., while those who spend would spend on one account alltogether, instead of being everyone by themselves, if the ystill spend money on consumables to kill other people SEGs and other things =) But that stuff should be done from the very beginning, since some content is already lost (like, Gambit 1 story for me or previous EG movies/limited cards etc.) That way everyone could spend a bit and see everything they'd want but missed, anytime, while playing their own account without hesitations as good as it goes without excessive effort and stress, just like now people can see stuff on the Wiki.
    But that's just too utopic to come true, lol.
    Stopped playing all Nutaku's games (and, thus, using HBC and other related forums) around 06.2016

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Vic47 View Post
    Well, partially i can't say JSensei is wrong, top spenders do our job on SEGs every bloody EG event. And yes, Pink boxes really contain trash, most of the time. (this time they even didn't have RGacha until Phase 2) But they still contain some Kairo, so if an f2p player would get as much pinks as macro's do, he could be closer to that 50k reward, which is very hard (almost impossible i'd say) to get for an f2p without SR SECs even with the effort i put into Gambit. Plus, Getting the cutest limited girls is more valueable than getting Pero, SR Wilds, R gacha and even Revgacha people get from Elite Guards slayed by top spenders, because they can get that stuff over time anyway (just way slower) and reward cards are not so hot in EG events usually - that's why people feel bad about being robbed of pink boxes the most, i think.
    Besides, during this gambit i put all on gold/silver boxes, skipping 1 focus fights, and in the end i got like 10 Gold boxes gone to waste, still locked, by the end of gambit, and around 15 Silvers opened just by my old and random low-to-average level friends, by 1 or 2 per person, while i asked for help on Discord and recieved no help from big spenders (who pretty sure had enough extra keys to help me and open my expiring gold and silver boxes, but decided to not bother and save them for the future). So i've got screwed all over in this Gambit and had to do all the work myself, wasting all my 6 egacha tickets that i've saved since the previous Gambit and like half of my peronamin stock to echieve 51k without help (i could save those resources if someone would open those cases for me and i'd get some PeroGlasses from them).
    I know they kidna buy those keys with real money and can decide by themselves how and when to use them, and i made a second macro shittherad on EA and removed everyone who had him on their list and those who i considered macros' before i reconsidered their help on EG, and i still "won" this gambit all the way, no matter what, but still this time it felt kinda several times worse than usual, since i got screwed not only by Nutaku's rules this time as usual, and by the changes they've made to this particular Gambit, and got "robbed" of pink boxes by macros as usual, but also got ignored in my cry for help, which made me totally fail with my strategy and lose most of the rewards i was planning to get, but also had to waste half of my "emergecy stash" and still have quite a bad luck at eGacha) to win kinda crappy (for my taste) card (just because i had to test my new Gambit strategy i was taught before).
    But whatever. Screw that Gambit and move on to EG. And yeah, whatever, all this Hentai games fun can soon come to an end for most of us because of those stupid politics, anyway, so, why bother at all... =_="
    It's worth noting that it's pretty easy to get the R-Slayer. In the last three events, I've spent four e-gacha tickets and gotten 3 R slayers. For this event, I had the old beta from the Shards event, picked up the 1st phase alpha R on the second e-gacha. When Phase 2 rolled around, I got the new alpha on the first try. With three R slayers (phase 1 Beta, phase 2 beta, phase 2 alpha) and both N slayers, my multiplier was 5.45.

    Truth be told, the R Slayers are almost as good as the SRs, and they're WAAAAAY easier to get. People think it can't be done without an SR slayer, but it's not hard at all to get all the R slayers. In total, I spent 3 e-gacha and got two useful slayers (plus the one from the previous event, which I got on the only e-gacha ticket used). I run pretty neutral on e-gachas. You get one per event, and I usually use at most one e-gacha ticket per event. I didn't use any for the last perocolo, so I saved that one for gambit. For this event, I got two e-gacha tickets (one from the event, one for 30 days) and spent 3 total, so I had a net loss of one ticket. I find that's plenty to get me in the top 1000.

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