Originally Posted by Seya

yep thats what they are doing and it should be bannable offence tbh

Funny fact. When i got billing issues with Epoch (i can't untie Safety Pay option), they suggested me to create alts and STFU instead of feeding my main account with real money.

Thanks billing support, you are promoving cheats.

P.S: Streak stopped in 216 wins (mistake with S card)

Originally Posted by Tenhou

Anyone know who the girl in the background of every battle is? Doesn't seem she's a card yet. Hope she'll be.

I would really love to know as well. She is very sexy. ♥

Originally Posted by Soullessness

200 Battlestreak complete hallefuckinglujah lol

Woo, congrats. I just reached 101. 99 more wins to go. *Sighs*

Originally Posted by YoshiEnVerde

Seeing as losing doesn't count for anything in this event (at least not yet... wait until PeroPrincess starts), you're not really doing anything to those poor rank fivers.
Specially with no W/L ratio being displayed to show them how bad they're being hit.

Once PeroPrincess starts things will be different on this, mainly because losing a battle will substract points. Then you'd be decimating the poor guys.

Truthfully I've been hitting the rank 5 players a lot, and even attacking the same ones over again just so I can get a 200 win streak. Really want that free E ticket and hopefully get a limited card. After that happens I'll be focusing on tickets. Already at the last box luckily.

I do feel bad about attacking them, but thankfully it doesn't 'harm' them if they are attacked. That said..in PVP type of events like this it's only natural to attack those weaker than you are. It's just the nature of things. I'm sure the top players are doing the exact same thing.

LOL I just got Yukari on my 3rd roll of the gold box.

Just so you know, if you ever get a step-up, no matter how much you get (I mean seriously, there's only 1 SR, no rares) have a card reveal ready!

I thought you wouldn't get one since the rare didn't have one. In the normal gachas a rare has a step up, especially in the story.

Didn't check the OP. My bad! I guess just ignore the attachments? lol

Attached it thinking we didn't know what the box had. Anyway, last 35 is 3,000 Pero.

Originally Posted by Zerana

I would really love to know as well. She is very sexy. ♥

Answered that back in page 8

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Originally Posted by ShadowMiku

Yeah, I could see how it'd be bad for rank fivers to have a W/L display how bad they are doing. I guess you could argue whether it being implemented would benefit all of us since it has a pro and con. Us rank 1s-3s being the pro (Being able to enhance our deck if we see multiple losses which = not working, therefore giving us more Coliseum tickets) and rank 4 and 5s having the con (They can see about 100 losses so they switch up decks to stop it or try harder to demolish our streak) but you have to wonder what these guys can do, because as stated before on this thread about the stats each card type has and how strong each is to the other, all they could do is switch around the deck or put all of their SRs in, and even then our SRs would be stronger. So I guess the only thing bad about this is crushing their hearts by showing them how bad they're doing? lol. I mean yeah losing doesn't count, but wouldn't seeing a W/L ratio of 0.01 just make you want to give up on this event and PvP style events in general? Just depends on the person, since I had an experience like this on a game called Valkyrie Crusade and all I could do is sit there and let it happen since lvl 100s vs lvl 10s is ludicrous to revenge.

Which brings up another point about battle history: If anything there should definitely not be a history, unless the staff talked about this farming being a possibility. Which brings up the whole "only attacking a certain person once a day" point that Opalia brought up. Valid points. We're trying to make sure these events are fun and well done, so feel free to chime in anyone who disagrees or agrees with this, because I was thinking about this for a few hours now and thought "Well other games have this type of style, why not us"?

Overall I guess it wouldn't work to put it in since it would enhance us at the top of the food chain so to speak and would make the lower tiers look even more weak and defeated. It would definitely help the discussion hearing an opinion from a lower tier player so we can figure out whether this COULD be a nice idea or not. All I want it for is to see if I'm a target which looks like I'm not compared to most since I've only been attacked 20 times(?) and won. lol

Most cellphone card games usually don't allow you to refresh your opponent's list with impunity. Either that, or they have a way of limiting you on that side.

For example, you have to click a "Fing Opponents" button to get to the list of opponents, and it gets the 2 focus substracted on entering.
Then, you have a set amount of refreshes allowed (Say 5, for this example's purpose).
Any time you refresh the list, or you change the rank, you get one refresh counter removed.

That way, you limit how much an alt can search for their main account.

Another thing that can be done is to substract the 2 focus on entering the battle panel, and not when starting the battle.
That way, you can't do the whole enter/exit loop until my helper is the best.
Or they can stop showing what your helper will be, just rely on the randomness (your opponent is forced to, after all).

In the end, the best solution would be for Nutaku admins to check on these events.
Anybody with two braincells to rub together can see that the top 20 players are cheating the game with alts. Either that, or paying someone to attack them constantly.
It's not that hard to comb through the system's records on attacks performed on their accounts, and see if there are any anomalies (like three accounts doing 200 contiguous attacks on that player, in spite of always losing like 60k vs 2k :P. Een going so far as to consume 50 Pero Puddings each to do so).

Of course, just adding up how much money people like Sanae must have spent to do that (and just realizing that they'll need to triple that, at the very least, if they intend to stay in the top 20) shows you how much Nutaku is going to prosecute them for this:
With three alts, attacking for four hours a day each, you get 3alts x 4hs x 12focus / 2cost = 72atks.
To be able to reach those 1.2k defenses (and giving them a nice 200def from real opponents, which is large number), they'd need to buy enough foucs for the missing 928atks. That's 309 puddings. At 3.5k pts for 50u, and knowing points cost $1 for 100pts (meaning 50 puddings cost $35), we get around $216 for them.
So, we know they're throwing around $220 each every day on this event. That's almost $1500 each for the whole thing. Do you really think Nutaku is going to tell them "Stop spending your money on us"?

So, we know they're throwing around $220 each every day on this event. That's almost $1500 each for the whole thing. Do you really think Nutaku is going to tell them "Stop spending your money on us"?

lol, exactly, as long as you're a paying player you can do what ever the hell you want, they're not banning like 5% of their income. I would probably do alt account thing myself, but i just cant be bothered, takes too much time

Well, the top players certainly aren't spending that kind of money just to get the rewards for being in the top 20. It's far cheaper to just buy those items than spending that much on the event. Unless I've missed it somewhere, multiple accounts don't seem to be against the rules so if they have the time and money to do all that I don't see Nutaku stopping them.

Originally Posted by Zerana

Well, the top players certainly aren't spending that kind of money just to get the rewards for being in the top 20. It's far cheaper to just buy those items than spending that much on the event. Unless I've missed it somewhere, multiple accounts don't seem to be against the rules so if they have the time and money to do all that I don't see Nutaku stopping them.

last event had similar rewards yet it didnt stop people spending 1k+ on puddings. Yep everyone can use alts if they have the time and are willing to bother with it so there is nothing to complain about really

Eh, just realized that I'm still doing decent on this event and did decent on the last event. As long as I'm not shut out of the 1-1000s..

Yeah there really is nothing to complain about. You're right. lol I'm growing whether they pay or not. At least Nutaku is earning a lot from this too.

Originally Posted by Zerana

Well, the top players certainly aren't spending that kind of money just to get the rewards for being in the top 20. It's far cheaper to just buy those items than spending that much on the event. Unless I've missed it somewhere, multiple accounts don't seem to be against the rules so if they have the time and money to do all that I don't see Nutaku stopping them.

Just $5 and i'm 27-30 on chart (i wasted $20 on peronamin before event, but i was bad balanced). The idea with cash is buying pudding and trolling some kind of cards (Moe in my case). In the other hand, event gachas are a waste of money.

with that boost + coliseum gacha i got the 200 killstreak in less than 2 days (well, someone got that before me).



FYI: I got a similar* tactic during elite guard event (without cash that time), taking some low level contacts instead of my own targets (pos. 359 in support ranking), using event rolls to take resources (just 3 stamina)

No cash used and i'm at rank 35 already. Not gotten the kill streak yet, though. Always some asshat that changes his lineup somewhere at 100 wins -_-