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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    I didn't ignore it. You used it as an example but said there was an exception for whales. Why does it get an exception? Because it literally contradicts everything? Because you needed a reason to prove it isn't F2P when content isn't completely doable by everyone?

    I haven't played the game so I can only go base off by what you said.
    Majin maps are specifically geared towards whales, but that doesn't mean free players are barred from it, nor are they missing out on anything by not doing it. They were made to present a challenge for those people, but believe it or not, people have cleared them with free event units as well.

    The nature of F2P is different in Aigis though, due to the vast number of free units they get, thus forcing people to divide their resources, and even veterans don't know which unit might be useful later on, or which units might get buffed/nerfed. Plus the RNG involved in actually getting some of them, AND the RNG in actually improving them (reducing their cost, increasing their skill level). And a whole bunch of other things that can fuck with how a map plays out.

    They're called guides because they serve as a base for how to clear a map, not exactly because they're to be followed to the second (though they certainly can be). Regardless, to my knowledge, there hasn't been a map that is completely impossible for free players, just that said subset of free players might not have the resources available just because there are so many damn units to keep track of.

    And yet again, there isn't a form of competition to be had here. Paying only benefits oneself in the ease of actually clearing maps, and even then, paying players are subject to the same amount of grinding that free players do. Beyond that, it's another waifu collecting game like FKG.

    Quote Originally Posted by smr View Post
    People have different opinions on the matter of what pay to win and gacha games are, attacking others that have different opinions on the subject matter accomplishes nothing.
    If it was just about "advantages" being overblown, I could at least agree to disagree, but actually going so far as to claim it's P2W is outright false. There are real P2W games that comparing to FKG would be insulting to do so, and Aidoru doesn't seem to be able to take the hint because fuck logic.

    Even Aigis benefits paying players a TON more than FKG treats its players, including blessings that outright provide temporary flat buffs to their units, or simply using recharges to cover for any mistakes or fill in the gaps of particularly demanding events. And yet it still isn't P2W for the reasons I listed.
    Last edited by Eab1990; 12-24-2016 at 01:28 AM.

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