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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    And in the end, the problem is mostly because I don't intake the phrase the same way as you. You seem to take it in a literal sense, especially the "win" part. For me, win isn't just some kind of competition in some PvP themed game or some leader board , it's moving far ahead of other players, being able to reach the end game and often with a lot less effort because you can't win MMOs in the first place and yet many are P2W.
    Ignoring how wrong this sentiment is, what MMOs have you been playing for it to not have a win condition that P2W can't capitalize on? Maybe the purely cosmetic ones like TERA wouldn't count, but just about anything else with a PVP aspect has some form of gacha and/or P2W system that completely invalidates your statement. Of course there's P2W when a paying player can completely outclass a free player in direct competition, regardless of skill.

    But like Rupturez and everyone else here says, there is no direct competition, no race to win in FKG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rupturez View Post
    Seems there has been a lot of shitstorm in this thread while I was sleep.

    I'll just throw in my two cents.

    -While I understand your sentiment of saying that this game is p2w because Nutaku fking gem starves their free players so incredibly bad to the point we are blowing 700 stamina on a reissue just to get 1 gem, no this game is not pay to win. There is nothing to win.

    -Someone stated that the people unhappy with this ticket are ungrateful and spoiled and wish for this to never happen again. Well you're right. I would have rather that this shit did not happen, and I am spoiled and ungrateful. First thing I notice though is that all these players saying this got either a new gold or rainbow while claiming "a dupe gold would have been good as well." Well nice fucking saint shit going there, but I'm not like that. If it was a guaranteed 5* for everyone or 6* for everyone, I would be thrilled. I would be glad to recieve a christmas present like that even if I pull a dupe out of it. But if you make an unleveled playing field in such a simple thing as a christmas present, how can I possibly be thrilled? You can't even begin to imagine what RNG luck I've dealt with in this game since release and now I get even MORE rng in my present.
    Gem starving is what Aigis does, really. Well, crystal starving. But Nutaku FKG, while not ideal, does at least give out enough FGs for an 11-roll every 1.5 months on average. That's not the terrible part. Getting nothing but bronze/silver after that 1.5 month wait is what's terrible. But it's still better than Aigis giving out 2-4 rolls' worth of SCs a month on average, and contending with that 50% silver rate there as well. And again, it's paid off to have an FG stockpile for those guaranteed gold deals, or the Bridal Oncidium deal.

    Aye, I said that you people were ungrateful. But at least you admit it. Hell, I should be pissed about my roll as well, seeing as I got the same rainbow I paid for, TWICE (Sakura). But I'm not, because I already got lucky with my 11-roll earlier, and I could've done worse than a dupe rainbow of a girl I like. And I can at least be happy for anyone else who lucked out with a rainbow they like.

    Unless it's Daisy. Daisy belongs to me, dammit.
    Last edited by Eab1990; 12-24-2016 at 02:08 AM.

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    The good old Nexon Maplestory days are what I'm talking about. Where games focused solely on partying up to grinding level and gearing up, and that's it. They didn't even have PvP when I played. The closest thing to PvP is who can kill X boss faster. Cash shop involved gacha, exp modifiers, more slots, etc.

    Regardless, as I've already said many times before, it's not so much about winning but all the advantages one gets over the other by using money and this is probably the last time Ill say it as there's honestly no reason to go over this again as it won't get anywhere. You can stick with your definition and I'll stick with mine.

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    Wow. I spend a few hours driving over the mountains and all hell breaks lose in this thread.

    For those of you who are wondering what I got I ended up getting a second Epidendrum. I ain't salty about it though seeing that I realised my luck is kinda shit a few years ago. XD
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    Wow. There is a lot of things said here.

    To share my small experience and add another point of view to this debate, I'm a totally free player since exactly 186 days (I even resist to the BF temptation). And I absolutly don't see this game like a pay to win. I'm more than 400k total power and I can do every event map with ridiculous ease.
    A free player can never reach the level of paying players? Maybe. But actually I still have more TP than any other paying players in my friend list (I don't say this to brag, it's just to show you that a free player can also have a decent level compared to players with 5 lvl 70 rainbows in their helper teams).

    Sure this game is pay to accelerate, almost sure it's pay to waifu (at least if you care enough about waifu to spend money for them) but pay to win... okay but to win what? There is nothing to win here. Almost all the current stuff is doable with a medium level team. There is no PvP here and the only multiplayer side of the game is based on indirect cooperation.
    There is no actual thing to win. Only having fun while playing with waifu or less-waifu girls. the rest only depends of the peoples and what they want from the game.
    If for you winning is reaching the higest total power as fast as you can or get the largest harem possible or feel as much as possible the exitation of a 10+1 roll, yes it's pay to win. But if you just want to play, max affection/level your girls and complete the events, it is not. Absolulty not.

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    At some point, even Free players will reach the stage where more girls doesn't necessarily mean a better team. So yeah, I pulled a Setaria from this ticket, which I didn't have yet. Will that improve my team even one bit? No, because she'll be benched forever, except maybe for Nation Battles (which are piss easy and can be done with a quarter filled unit consisting of only 2* and 3* girls). Everybody will eventually get a full team of golds, and once that happens, will start pulling non-dupe golds or even rainbows, who simply don't fit in their unit.

    As odd as it might sound to some, I'd rather pull a dupe Cyrtanthus than a dupe Black Baccara by now, or even a new Ionocidium (since I don't have her yet). Simply because that dupe Cyrtanthus fits my squads, while those rainbows, mighty as they may be, do not, and would be benched anyway. And even the slightly weaker event girls have a place in my squads. My second strongest squad actually gets carried by Hypericum and Mirabilis, both event girls, while my strongest squad has non-maxed Tachibana and non-maxed Geranium as important cogs in the wheel.

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    I am at the exact same state as many Veteran Players:

    At a specific point you don't need a random 5* anymore, you need specific 5*, waifus or new Rainbows to boost your team.

    It's kinda funny that a lot of Players on this list http://harem-battle.club/flower-knig...-forumers.html got screwed by RNG this time and a lot of new Players got a 6*

    Anyway i am complaining about my luck and that's totally fine.

    Fact is that even it is a gift some Players got more value out of it.

    Honestly i don't need Gerbera as a unit, nor is she a waifu. She will be benched forever and is a waste of an inventory Slot.

    That's the reason i say a 5* ticket to choose your Girl with a 50% Rainbow Chance would be better.

    Everybody would be happy you know
    Last edited by Wutan; 12-24-2016 at 06:11 AM.

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