[Merry Christmas] 5+ Star Gacha Ticket Plus Thread

[Zandel]

What game content which is not cosmetic exactly? Any player can reach "capable of clearing any map" state within a month. The biggest hurdles to take are manyus and gold, to level up a couple of 3* and 4* girls. That's all it takes to progress in the game. Spending money to get more 5* and 6* girls won't make a difference, they only take the place of the 3* and 4* girls when wondering "what to level up", but hardly (if at all) make the game progress faster. Every manyu they spend on leveling a 5* is NOT spent on leveling a 2*, 3* or 4*, while someone who doesn't have that 5* will level a 2*, 3* or 4* instead.

Stam / raid boss refills can be bought with RL cash and they speed up the game to an amazing extent. With enough money you could clear the game content in under a week. While it's true that anyone can lvl their girls and complete the game given enough time and while it's true that given enough time you could (with enough luck) gain all the girls in the game as well. The fact that Money makes it faster is what I was refering too.

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Thats the main question, that can be split in multiple lesser ones, but ultimately it always boils down to the "Do I get a bigger UMPF from this when I spend some dosh ?"

And this is what Eab seems to miss, spending cash in FKG can give you more stam which translates into more girl levels hence more 'UMPF'.

Personally I don;t mind the P2W model they are using because it's really only for impatient people. For me i'll spend some dosh here and there on a few girls I like but for me it's about getting what I want not making the game easier / faster.

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There's really no helping you guys at this point. If you can't see how rainbows, or even gacha golds, are not required for you to enjoy this game to the fullest (barring waifuism, hence "pay to waifu" for the umpteenth time), then you should probably move to other mobage and see how shitty those get without paying.

FYI I never said anything about rainbows or gatcha golds. I was just pointing out to you that FKG is indeed a P2W game by definition. I actually find it strange that you have so much trouble being able to see the truth. Guessing based on your name, you are 26 years old and thus should easily be able to tell that if you pay money into this game you will gain an advantage over others (thus P2W).

[Eab1990]

None of what you said has constituted P2W.

It's already been explained a thousand times over how "making things faster" does not necessarily mean P2W.

[IvanLedah21]

Stam / raid boss refills can be bought with RL cash and they speed up the game to an amazing extent. With enough money you could clear the game content in under a week. While it's true that anyone can lvl their girls and complete the game given enough time and while it's true that given enough time you could (with enough luck) gain all the girls in the game as well. The fact that Money makes it faster is what I was refering too.

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And this is what Eab seems to miss, spending cash in FKG can give you more stam which translates into more girl levels hence more 'UMPF'.

Personally I don;t mind the P2W model they are using because it's really only for impatient people. For me i'll spend some dosh here and there on a few girls I like but for me it's about getting what I want not making the game easier / faster.

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FYI I never said anything about rainbows or gatcha golds. I was just pointing out to you that FKG is indeed a P2W game by definition. I actually find it strange that you have so much trouble being able to see the truth. Guessing based on your name, you are 26 years old and thus should easily be able to tell that if you pay money into this game you will gain an advantage over others (thus P2W).

Point 1: Stamina/Raid Point refills are widely considered among the worst ways to use FG outside of last day of an event to make sure your event girl is maxed out. Speed up the leveling? Nice, but not necessary. Clear the game content in under a week? Why would you want to PAY to clear a game in a week and then be bored? Considering early levels speed by, by the time you've spent 10 FGs on stamina refills, you could easily be sufficient levels to clear most content, perhaps needing strong helper squads to do certain ultimate maps. 10 FGs, 15 at worst, is hardly in the realm of having to pay.

Point 2: P2W =/= Catering to impatient people, it means catering to people willing to spend massive money to get ahead of others playing, presumably because it gives them a decisive edge. If for you, it's about getting what you want, not making it easier/faster, why are you so hung up on FKG being a P2W game? Why does it even matter to you? I recommend you go look up some of the "worst P2W games ever" lists out there. While Hearthstone is mentioned by some people (I'm bringing it up because the cards you can get by paying are obtainable eventually without paying, like FKG), do note it is almost entirely based on PVP content. In fact, every game on those lists (maybe a rare exception here and there) is heavily/entirely PVP, which FKG has NONE of. Many people I know, including on this board, would call a game P2W when you pay to get ahead of people YOU ARE DIRECTLY COMPETING WITH (Nutaku's Pero Pero Seduction and to a lesser extent Angelic Saga are much more viable targets for the P2W label).

Point 3: "Pay money into this game you will gain an advantage over others" ...Right. Advantage over others when the biggest form of "competition" is your Friends List TP ranking. And that means how much, exactly? If there's no competition between players, I can't understand why P2W would even come up. Pay For Convenience? Definitely. Pay to Waifu? Obviously. Pay for Roster Completion? Of course. Pay to Win? Not seeing it.

Again, it's a point-of-view matter in the end, but trying to tell someone that your definition is "right" and he's wrong (and implying that he's stupid for not telling you your POV is right in that last sentence when I pointed out an issue with it in Point 3) is not going to get you anywhere, especially since you seem to be in the minority here.

[Meister]

I just noticed I got the ticket so I rolled it... Got another Cattleya which im not complaining since it's a free draw. The only ironic thing for me is that I now have 2 rainbow which is of the same girl . I guess Cattleya really likes me then


Now struggling to decide whether to keep her or open the 2nd slot...