When you donate items you got you got a cetain minimum waithing time. If you lucky the actural waithing time will be longer.

Each waithing time only have maybe 20? different rewards. Some of there rewards are a lot more rare than others.

Example. Rewards from 0:50 waiting time:

35 times I got: SR Wild3
28 times I got: SR Wild3 + R Wild
25 times I got: 20 candy + SR-wild 3
10 times I got: 15 candy + SR wild1 + paronamin half
8 times I got: pudding half
8 times I got: R-Girl
5 times I got: paronamin half
3 times I got: SR Wild1
2 times I got: 15 candy + R Girl
2 times I got: N-Girl
2 times I got: 20 candy + SR-wild 3 + pudding half
1 times I got: R-Girl + N Girl

The nut you get is also detremined by waiting time. More than one waiting times show same nut as there are more waiting times than nuts.
0:50, 1:00 and 1:30 waithing times all give tall silver nut.
I think 2:00, 2:30,... give 2nd silver nut.

My theory is that even with one candy (2 points) players can with enogth luck get any waiting time and therefore they can get any reward with just one candy.
Chance is proberbly 1: 10000000 to get a SR-girl just from 1 candy so it might not be a good way to obtain SR-girl even if it posible.

0:50 and 1:30 waiting time use same silver nut but the rewards are very diferent (0:50 gives SR-wild3) (1:30 gives SR-Wild5).

Originally Posted by Opalia24

When you donate items you got you got a cetain minimum waithing time. If you lucky the actural waithing time will be longer.

Each waithing time only have maybe 20? different rewards. Some of there rewards are a lot more rare than others.

Example. Rewards from 0:50 waiting time:

35 times I got: SR Wild3
28 times I got: SR Wild3 + R Wild
25 times I got: 20 candy + SR-wild 3
10 times I got: 15 candy + SR wild1 + paronamin half
8 times I got: pudding half
8 times I got: R-Girl
5 times I got: paronamin half
3 times I got: SR Wild1
2 times I got: 15 candy + R Girl
2 times I got: N-Girl
2 times I got: 20 candy + SR-wild 3 + pudding half
1 times I got: R-Girl + N Girl

The nut you get is also detremined by waiting time. More than one waiting times show same nut as there are more waiting times than nuts.
0:50, 1:00 and 1:30 waithing times all give tall silver nut.
I think 2:00, 2:30,... give 2nd silver nut.

My theory is that even with one candy (2 points) players can with enogth luck get any waiting time and therefore they can get any reward with just one candy.
Chance is proberbly 1: 10000000 to get a SR-girl just from 1 candy so it might not be a good way to obtain SR-girl even if it posible.

0:50 and 1:30 waiting time use same silver nut but the rewards are very diferent (0:50 gives SR-wild3) (1:30 gives SR-Wild5).

That's why I have this new idea. After all, in a common chance spin without any step-ups you actually can get an SR in there (it's very hard and depends on too much luck, but there's that 1% chance still).

2 R Gacha + 1 Pero Glasses (to fill silver button) -> 1 Peronamin + 20 candy + Wild Card 5

Gap Close Experiment: 3,250 to 3,600 - Testing 3,300

Trial 1:
-Tribute: 6x Peronamin
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:30
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: none
---Prize 1: 2x Peronamin
---Prize 2: 1x Peronamin Half

Trial 2:
-Tribute: 6x Peronamin
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:00
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: none
---Prize 1: 2x Peronamin
---Prize 2: 1x Peronamin Half

Trial 3:
-Tribute: 6x Peronamin
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 3:00 (exception, disregard point value)
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: none
---Prize 1: Limited N

Trial 4:
-Tribute: 6x Peronamin
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:00
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: none
---Prize 1: 2x PeroPero Glasses

Trial 5:
-Tribute: 6x Peronamin
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:00
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: 30
---Prize 1: 2x PeroPero Glasses

Results: In 5 trials, I got 3 2:00's, 1 2:30, and 1 3:00. If regarding the 2:30 and the 3:00 as exceptions (3:00 gave a Limited N too), 3.3k points is likely to be in the 2:00 tier.

Admittedly a 5-shot is a weak argument for data. I'll hit it another 5 times to be sure.

After that, I'm gonna take a jump and try for 3,450 next, as it's dead center of the gap.

Note 2: I think I mentioned it before but [Pero Pudding x2 + Peronamin x1] does not get you into the 2:00 wait time unless triggering an exception. A proper example tribute would be [Peronamin x5]

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Trial 6:
-Tribute: 6x Peronamin
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:30
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: 40
---Prize 1: 2x Pero Pudding

Trial 7:
-Tribute: 6x Peronamin
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:30
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: 30
---Prize 1: 2x PeroPero Glasses
---Prize 2: 2x PeroPero Radar

Trial 8:
-Tribute: 6x PeroPero Glasses
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:00
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: none
---Prize 1: 2x PeroPero Glasses

Trial 9:
-Tribute: 6x PeroPero Glasses
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:30
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: 20
---Prize 1: 1x SR Wild 5
---Prize 2: 1x Peronamin

Trial 10:
-Tribute: 6x PeroPero Glasses
--Est Value: 3300
--Est Tier: ? (2:00-2:30)
---Resulting Tier: 2:00
---Nut Type: Fat Silver
---Candy: none
---Prize 1: 2x PeroPero Glasses

Results: In another 5 trials, I got 3 2:30's and 2 2:00's. Furthermore, I recorded 3 different amounts of candy in the 2:30 wait time (and yes, I put alot of effort into charting the wait time). The very weird bit is that the candy amounts (when given) though inconsistent with the wait times, were at the least consistent with the usual prizes they would be paired with (20 candy and SR5/namin is common in the 1:30 Tier)

Long note short:

• 3,300 points is a gray area
• Wait times do not directly correlate with prize tiers. They usually serve as a good reference though
• As shown on JP Wiki, Nut color/shape does not determine prize tier but serves as general reference.
• There may be a remote possibility that PeroPero Glasses have a slightly lower value than Peronamin, but it is doubtful and difficult to prove.

Stranger is that with all that being said, all the inconsistencies were in the 2:30 wait time only. All my prizes in the 2:00 wait time were pretty much the usual, either a 2x Glasses or 2x namin with 1x namin half

I'm...honestly not sure what to make of this data right now...gonna sit on it for a bit before I figure my next course of action.

Originally Posted by Opalia24

My theory is that even with one candy (2 points) players can with enogth luck get any waiting time and therefore they can get any reward with just one candy.
Chance is proberbly 1: 10000000 to get a SR-girl just from 1 candy so it might not be a good way to obtain SR-girl even if it posible.

This theory seems interesting, if this is true (Obviously it seems far-fetched on paper by the looks of it, I mean getting a SR-Wild 1 for a Candy is insanely lucky due to the trade off) Candy can have more use then just using it as a way to get N Wilds to level up cards not seen in the gachas. Then again, using a Candy for 1,000 Pero to get pretty bad rewards to test this seems like a bad idea as well. You're pretty much using your Pero as a gamble for lots of N-gachas and N-wilds in hopes to prove that Candy has some use (My question and point) and that timers don't correlate with prizes from how you stated this theory. Only problem with testing this is Pero, since you can resupply one candy for 5 if you're lucky but you'd have to do missions, get lots of Pero slots, and stock up on Pero from the coliseum event.

I'm obviously not saying to test this, or of any sort that is close to that. Who knows if someone out there does try this out and somehow gets a different reward then what's listed, then maybe Candy can be something worth getting. My whole point, and I'm glad this theory was thought up, was that maybe Candy can be useful AND be more evidence to the whole "timers don't correlate with prizes, they should just be used as a reference" thought. I hope it would because to this day, I still use the timers as a way to predict what prizes I'll get, and trying out some gold combos, I got less then what was listed on the table for gold. lol. I just thought about how cool this would be after seeing it and thinking about it for a bit. Even if it was random and harder to get good rewards with, to use Candy and luck to get some pretty decent rewards seems interesting. I have 125 candy right now, and I have LOTS of cards that I need to level up. Imagine getting R Wilds for x amount of Candy. I don't know how common/easy it is to get Candy, but it just seems interesting to me.

Again, might be a bit too far-fetched, but to prove the points and trials, seems a little worth it to try.

So then what is the best way to get an Limit SR card? Keep tossing 500points and wait 50min?

R Gachas. You can pick 1 per day from quests (chance time roll), 2 on current event.

P.S: R gachas has a bad rate if you use them. Their price should be cut.

Peronamin + Pudding

1:30 SR5, pudding
1:00 Candy 20, WC3, halfpuddi
2:30 Chise

Lim SR confirmed for Peronamin+Pudding combo

give away 1 R gacha ticket + 10 candies, wait time: 1h30

what i got: 1 R gacha ticket =.=

Put in enough for a gold button, got a card reveal and pero pudding -_-