
- Kurito's Nest
- PeroPero
- PeroPero Seduction Integration
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We've been sorta tiptoeing around the analysis of this nest for a while so I think I'm gonna chuck a wrench, see if it changes anything.
2 big points I want to bring out and get feedback on. Why do I want feedback? Cuz I'm working on the damn wiki site and I don't want to be embarrassingly wrong.
First off: from the reference examples of others and my own personal experience with Kurito, this is my understanding of the main points of how Kurito's Nest works:
*Regarding Donations:
-You can donate up to 10 of any item, and up to 4 kinds of items, for a total of 40 consumables of 4 different types. (ie 10x R gachas & 10x Pero Puddings & 10x Event Gachas & 10x Card Reveals, can't add another and can't go above 10)
[Efficient Proof of Contradiction is a tribute/donation involving 5 different kinds of items or 11+ of a certain item donated]
-All items have an inherent point value that determines wait time (and by that default, prize). Our knowledge of point value is based on JP wiki and may be inaccurate.
-When donating, confirm button turns from bronze to silver past 1500 pts, to gold past 10k pts, to rainbow past 20k pts. This doesn't determine prize, it just serves as a reference (I say this because 1 Pero Pudding = 650 pts = Bronze Confirm button = Silver Long Nut.
*Regarding Wait Times:
-Wait time usually depends on the point value of the total donation to Kurito
-Wait time may fluctuate above or below its original expected time at random
-Fluctuation of wait time is possibly due to random drop/raise of values down to 1/2 the donation value and up to 2x the donation value (I say this because I have never seen the wait time drop below what 1/2 the donation value would result in, nor have I seen it raise above what 2x the donation value would result in)
-Fluctuation is NOT FIXED, meaning it does not only cut in half or double, but may vary in between. (I say this because 00:50 wait time tributes go up to 1:30 when doubled in value but sometimes result in 1:00 instead, which would be impossible unless it varied)
[Effective Proof of Contradiction would be a wait time that more than doubles its tribute value or more than halves it]
^Above in blue is unproven, I'll put it in the wiki as a suggested plausibility.
*Regarding Prizes: (This is the part I need the most help with)
-Prizes are dependent on wait time
--Wait Time determines prize nut color/shape
[Effective Proof of Contradiction is a different nut color/shape from the same Wait Time]
-ALL Consumable prizes have chance of including Candy
--Possible Candy given is dependent on wait time.
[Effective Proof of Contradiction is a Candy amount that does not line up with its known respective wait time:
*Wait time of 0:05, 0:10, and 0:20 returning more/less than 5 candy (excluding 0)
*Wait time of 0:30 returning more/less than 10 candy (excluding 0)
*Wait time of 0:40 returning more/less than 15 candy (excluding 0)
*Wait time of 0:50, 1:00, and 1:30 returning more/less than 20 candy (excluding 0)
anything beyond that is a bunch of incomplete data]
-Excluding Candy, you ONLY get up to (Missed this earlier, sorry) 2 items in a prize
[Effective Proof of Contradiction is a return that gives more than 2 consumables (excluding candy)]
--Items in the prize are unique to their slots for that prize tier (meaning if you get SR Wild 3 first then R Wild second, you'll never get R wild first or SR Wild 3 second.)
[Effective Proof of Contradiction is a return that has its item order reversed (referencing above, you first see the R Wild (after the candy), and then the SR Wild 3)]
--You NEVER get the 2nd prize alone (meaning if you get SR Wild 3 first then R Wild, you'll never get R Wild alone)
[Effective Proof of Contradiction is a return that contains only the item that is usually included secondary to another item]
-If you can get 1 Lim Girl Card, you can get 'em all (If you find any Lim Girl Card in a certain wait time, you can find ALL Lim Girl Cards in that wait time. That being said, there may be a cut-off point in wait time that you need to get above before you are eligible to get Lim Girl Cards)
[This theory cannot be disproved but is not factual unless data records all Lim Cards of all rarities being collected at all wait time tiers reported]
^Above in blue is unproven, I'll put it in the wiki as a suggested plausibility.
So these are my theories. If you have an objection and/or a piece of data that suggests an inaccuracy, please bring it up and I'll make sure to yank my theory from the model. If you have an idea not shown here that seems to be backed by all the data collected thus far, bring it up too and I'll be happy to add it to the model as well.
Second:
This thread's too jumbled. I want to make a new one solely for holding data towards Kurito's Nest entries. We started off not knowing too much about it but now that some of the program logic makes sense, I think we can draw better, more descriptive data for anyone willing to participate. If no one objects to it in 24 hours, I'll build the thread and start asking for input.
Last edited by ChibiKika; 07-22-2015 at 12:19 AM.
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